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 Post subject: Re: THE TRUMPTON CIRCUS IS COMING TO TOWN!
PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:48 pm 
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10,000-percent inflation can't be real .
I'm not sure, Alec, whether you mean "Hey man, that's unreal!", or whether to take you literally, i.e. you can't believe that 10,000% inflation could exist. :)

In case it's the latter, have a look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperinflation . Gives you lots of examples of it. The two that I am most familiar with are Germany in the 1920s and Zimbabwe in the 2000s.

They reckon that inflation in Venezuela was over 33,000% in July last year.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:57 pm 
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Yes, Zimbabwe .... I became obsessed with Zim for a brief period because of many things not least of which were Grace Mugabe but also Robert's Hitler 'tache .

With Zim and with Venezuela, the pundits over here [and probably over there, too] love to sometimes throw out "Weimar Republic" ...

In terms of [un]real/Kabuki, I can't really imagine Trump and Putin at loggerheads about anything, including Venezuela, although I saw somewhere that Putin dropped dollar and bought up a large portion of the yuan . Couldn't bear to look .


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 6:06 pm 
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David Too wrote:
Am I watching something on HBO?
I think I wrote a few days ago that I am convinced that I will shortly awake, to find that the past two and a half years have been naught but a dream.

You're in my dream too :lol:

"If we shadows have offended,
Think but this, and all is mended,
That you have but slumber'd here
While these visions did appear.
And this weak and idle theme,
No more yielding but a dream."


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 6:16 pm 
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alec wrote:
Yes, Zimbabwe .... I became obsessed with Zim for a brief period because of many things not least of which were Grace Mugabe but also Robert's Hitler 'tache .
Had a holiday in Zimbabwe in 2001. There was a total solar eclipse - mindblowing! Lovely country, lovely people, and it was devastating to see the damage that had already been done by Mugabe. And this was before the worst of the trouble. Only time I've come back from a holiday thinking about giving up my comfortable job in IT and seeing what I could do to help. (I didn't.)

BTW, Mugabe was usually driven around in a motorcade with sirens blaring - which the locals referred to as "Bob and the Wailers" :lol:


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Perfect Monster wrote:
Only time I've come back from a holiday thinking about giving up my comfortable job in IT and seeing what I could do to help. (I didn't.)


An IT Nelsonion : I say good .

I'll write to you from now on when I reach a tech conundrum .

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BTW, Mugabe was usually driven around in a motorcade with sirens blaring - which the locals referred to as "Bob and the Wailers" :lol:


:lol: Thumbs up .


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alec wrote:
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At least he isnt backing Maduro...Maybe h'ell get some of the gold which would surely change everything


I don't understand the Venezuela situation mostly because when I hear "10,000-percent inflation" it's hard to hear anything else .

All I can do after hearing "10,000-percent inflation" is quickly categorise :

Nicolás Maduro = supported by Putin

Juan Guaidó = supported by Trump

Maduro = same-old terrible

Guaidó = new terrible [like Jair Bolsonaro of Brasil]

Accurate ?

Putin and Trump on opposite sides of this equation : Is it real, is it Kabuki ... and through the political looking glass, how real is real, how Kabuki is Kabuki ?

10,000-percent inflation can't be real .



I can’t quote the inflation figure off the top of my head but I’ve read way over 10,000%. It’s not a matter of looking at it as Trump backing one and Puttin the other. The fact of the matter is Maduro presides over a government held in place thanks to inflating salaries of the military, arming bands of thugs to name some. We had those in the Noriega days. They were called “Dignity Battalions”. All designed to keep the common man under his fat thumb. The country with the largest oil reserves of the planet can’t even feed itself. Panama and Colombia are
overrun by refugees fleeing not only totalitarianism, but quite simply “starvation” or the inability to buy food, not to mention lack of medicine, toilet paper etc etc etc.

Trump is a total fool and his backing Gaudio as fast as he did may be a
political mistake considering that god knows what will happen next in that
country. In MHO the Venezuelan situation, a long time ago, went beyond
the faze of …don’t-meddle-in-Venezuelans- internal-affairs. Presently the
only hope that something might change is if the whole damn world openly
condemns those thugs.

By the way…this is not a rant…just saying what I think makes sense. The
situation over there reminds me so much of Panama in the 1980’s. The
big difference is that the rulers of Panama had zero ideology. They were
just in it for the business. They had the guns though.

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 Post subject: Re: THE TRUMPTON CIRCUS IS COMING TO TOWN!
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What staggers and frightens me most about all this stuff, whether it's Venezuala or Trump, or Russia or Brexit, (or all the other damn stupid situations that are forced on us by emotionally ugly and aggressive people,) is that we don't seem to have learned anything from past history, we just keep repeating the same old dangerous mistakes. Power hungry, nationalistic, homophobic, racist bigots, fearful of anything that doesn't fit their own narrow world view, are dragging the good souls amongst us down into the gutter with their blinkered, hateful prejudices. We're being bullied by ignorant fools.I don't know how we can escape this...It really depresses me sometimes.


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